A. we used to do it every day
cos if we went out in the woods we had to have something to eat
I mean you couldn't go out for a couple of hours and have nothing to eat
so we used to take apples with us
and if we did we went and picked them
of course picked them up out here
and we carried them in our knickers
we had knickers with elastic round the knees
and it was a wonderful way of carrying…
bzz bzz
it was a bit duck-like, walking
but I can remember vividly, they came out one day
out here, out this gate
and mum and, uh, john, augustus john
were coming up from the yard
and mum stopped -- I can remember the look of absolute horror
with us walking with our feet rather far apart
and she was saying,
what on earth's the matter with you children? what's wrong with you?
and I think we were rather nervous
we said "oh it's the apples you see"
"what apples"
and augustus john was absolutely frisking his sides with laughing at the sight of us
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C. it must have been a damn sight stronger
or else we were much lighter

A. but Catherine, remember, it's about sixty years old
it's been bearing itself up sixty or seventy years since we climbed it
for heavens sake
it'd make a difference
we used to climb up

C. more than sixty, we weren't twenty when we were going up it

A. oh shush Cat, keep quiet
seventy years -- seventy three years since we climbed it

A. yeah mm